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Post 1 \| New	Posted May 26th, 2005
Fragdieb2 just öne löuder Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,725	It's finally done, 29600 polies of insanity are available for download now, only 3 months or so late: The file. The pics: Hope you'll enjoy it. Fragdieb ------------------ Short gigs are like bad sex!

Posted May 26th, 2005

Fragdieb2
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It's finally done, 29600 polies of insanity are available for download now, only 3 months or so late:

The file.

The pics:

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/neuralite_final1.jpg

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/neuralite_final2.jpg

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jaktonn/pics/neuralite_final3.jpg

Hope you'll enjoy it.
Fragdieb

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Post 2 \| New	Posted May 26th, 2005
2na Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -97,077	So sexy.

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Posted May 26th, 2005

2na

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So sexy.

Post 3 \| New	Posted May 27th, 2005. Updated May 28th, 2005
Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,819	That shading makes it look so much better than before and the material/reflection map combination gives the body a really rich colour. Outstanding work, Frags. A couple of days ago I tested what it would be like with slightly different settings. Using a Engine Acceleration of 31 instead of 30 made it possible to drift at high speed, so you might like to update the download with that change. That's if you are using my handling. (EDIT) Something which I never liked is that the front seems to have too much ground clearence. The front is like an off-road buggy while the back is an exotic concept car. Really, the bottom wishbones at the front should be perfectly horizontal and the upper ones should slope upwards from the body towards the wheels. ------------------ (Grand Theft Auto Handling Editor \| GTA Tutorials)

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Posted May 27th, 2005. Updated May 28th, 2005

Cerbera
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That shading makes it look so much better than before and the material/reflection map combination gives the body a really rich colour. Outstanding work, Frags.

A couple of days ago I tested what it would be like with slightly different settings. Using a Engine Acceleration of 31 instead of 30 made it possible to drift at high speed, so you might like to update the download with that change. That's if you are using my handling.

(EDIT) Something which I never liked is that the front seems to have too much ground clearence. The front is like an off-road buggy while the back is an exotic concept car. Really, the bottom wishbones at the front should be perfectly horizontal and the upper ones should slope upwards from the body towards the wheels.

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Post 4 \| New	Posted May 27th, 2005
JJHW Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,223	I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round? ------------------ Long live the first 20 members! - I'm number 15 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhuhhhuuh

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Posted May 27th, 2005

JJHW

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I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round?

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Post 5 \| New	Posted May 27th, 2005
Will Shovel Headed Kill Machine Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,625	JJHW wrote: I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round? I've got SA pre-ordered! Man, this car, looks sexy. I would marry it. ------------------ -My site got deleted-

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Posted May 27th, 2005

Will
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JJHW wrote:

I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round?

I've got SA pre-ordered!

Man, this car, looks sexy. I would marry it.

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Post 6 \| New	Posted May 28th, 2005
Fragdieb2 just öne löuder Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,725	JJHW wrote: I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round? When SA is around and I've managed to find some money to buy it and the right tools are out...then I'll have a try. I'll change some details on the Neural though, it now looks boring compared to the Neuralite, at least some shading is required. Will wrote: Man, this car, looks sexy. I would marry it. She'd be an expensive wife... Cerbera wrote: (EDIT) Something which I never liked is that the front seems to have too much ground clearence. The front is like an off-road buggy while the back is an exotic concept car. Really, the bottom wishbones at the front should be perfectly horizontal and the upper ones should slope upwards from the body towards the wheels. I guess that's where my subconscious fear of low front bumpers comes through, I've broken one and scratched the ground various times with those things, thankfully, it wasn't my car. ------------------ Short gigs are like bad sex!

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Posted May 28th, 2005

Fragdieb2
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JJHW wrote:

I love it... reckon you could do SA versions of the Neurals when it rolls round?

When SA is around and I've managed to find some money to buy it and the right tools are out...then I'll have a try. I'll change some details on the Neural though, it now looks boring compared to the Neuralite, at least some shading is required.

Will wrote:

Man, this car, looks sexy. I would marry it.

She'd be an expensive wife...

Cerbera wrote:

(EDIT) Something which I never liked is that the front seems to have too much ground clearence. The front is like an off-road buggy while the back is an exotic concept car. Really, the bottom wishbones at the front should be perfectly horizontal and the upper ones should slope upwards from the body towards the wheels.

I guess that's where my subconscious fear of low front bumpers comes through, I've broken one and scratched the ground various times with those things, thankfully, it wasn't my car.

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Post 7 \| New	Posted May 29th, 2005
Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,819	Promo pic? large image The engine flames come from the nose of the car and not from the engine. I am pretty sure that it is the position of the bonnet dummy which determines where the flames come from. The holes I mentioned earlier in the COL file are actually a problem. While getting that screenshot I found the front wheels ending up underground a few times on hard landings and when I reversed into a post, the post when right inside the car and I could not get free. There is window smashing on front-end collisions when no windows get smashed. It seems almost impossible to actually make the engine cover get damaged because of how the COL is back there. ------------------ (Grand Theft Auto Handling Editor \| GTA Tutorials)

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Posted May 29th, 2005

Cerbera
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Promo pic?

http://projectcerbera.com/gtavc/images/25neuralite.jpg

large image

The engine flames come from the nose of the car and not from the engine. I am pretty sure that it is the position of the bonnet dummy which determines where the flames come from. The holes I mentioned earlier in the COL file are actually a problem. While getting that screenshot I found the front wheels ending up underground a few times on hard landings and when I reversed into a post, the post when right inside the car and I could not get free. There is window smashing on front-end collisions when no windows get smashed. It seems almost impossible to actually make the engine cover get damaged because of how the COL is back there.

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Post 8 \| New	Posted May 29th, 2005
Fragdieb2 just öne löuder Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,725	The bonnet dummy sadly does not change the position of the flames, even the BF Injection starts burning at the front, although rear-engined, I hope that is changeable in SA. Cerbera wrote: While getting that screenshot I found the front wheels ending up underground a few times on hard landings and when I reversed into a post, the post when right inside the car and I could not get free. The post-stuck-in-car happened to me with ingame cars too, so I guess it's at least partly a bug in the collision detection engine. The getting-stuck-underground issue is the same like on my monster trucks, nobody has found a way to fix that there yet. Nice pic, btw. ------------------ Short gigs are like bad sex!

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Posted May 29th, 2005

Fragdieb2
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The bonnet dummy sadly does not change the position of the flames, even the BF Injection starts burning at the front, although rear-engined, I hope that is changeable in SA.

Cerbera wrote:

While getting that screenshot I found the front wheels ending up underground a few times on hard landings and when I reversed into a post, the post when right inside the car and I could not get free.

The post-stuck-in-car happened to me with ingame cars too, so I guess it's at least partly a bug in the collision detection engine. The getting-stuck-underground issue is the same like on my monster trucks, nobody has found a way to fix that there yet.

Nice pic, btw.

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Post 9 \| New	Posted May 31st, 2005. Updated July 18th, 2005
Cerbera Ben 'Cerbera' Millard Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,819	Now released on my re-designed site: GTAVC > Sports ------------------ (Grand Theft Auto Handling Editor \| GTA Tutorials)

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Posted May 31st, 2005. Updated July 18th, 2005

Cerbera
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Now released on my re-designed site: GTAVC > Sports

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Post 10 \| New	Posted July 17th, 2005 \| hey how i can put it on my PC GTA VC?
Makfel Makfel's Streetie King Joined: Jul '05 Posts: 10	hey need a helpen there ------------------ blood its only thing that makes anyone fear,death is the word to kill someone,love is the significate of life...Pleasant is that i need,Thinking is that makes us do stupid things,Cry its that make we feel unwanted...

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Posted July 17th, 2005 | hey how i can put it on my PC GTA VC?

Makfel
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hey need a helpen there

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Post 11 \| New	Posted August 28th, 2005
red light red light from gta forums Joined: Aug '05 Posts: 21	can you make it for gta-3 anyone? ------------------

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Posted August 28th, 2005

red light
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can you make it for gta-3 anyone?

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Post 12 \| New	Posted August 28th, 2005
Fox RV Driver Joined: Dec '03 Posts: 341	Where have all the new people come from? And ya cars lookin grate man. ------------------ Hey get back here with my bagel! I wasent waving you across, I was flipping you off!

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Posted August 28th, 2005

Fox
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Where have all the new people come from?

And ya cars lookin grate man.

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Post 13 \| New	Posted August 28th, 2005
Fragdieb2 just öne löuder Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,725	red light wrote: can you make it for gta-3 anyone? I can't do nothing at the moment, I'm not even home right now and stuck with a really old p233 mmx laptop and 56k connection. I didn't even knew there are people around still playing GTA3, but when I'm back home, I'll see what I can do... Some guy at the pits did a SanAn conversion, but judged from the pics, it's not that great...I'll probably release a Neural megapack for San Andreas after converting both Neurals and modelling the third one. Fox wrote: Where have all the new people come from? Don't know, there must be a n00b respawn point somewhere around? ------------------ Short gigs are like bad sex!

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Posted August 28th, 2005

Fragdieb2
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red light wrote:

can you make it for gta-3 anyone?

I can't do nothing at the moment, I'm not even home right now and stuck with a really old p233 mmx laptop and 56k connection. I didn't even knew there are people around still playing GTA3, but when I'm back home, I'll see what I can do...

Some guy at the pits did a SanAn conversion, but judged from the pics, it's not that great...I'll probably release a Neural megapack for San Andreas after converting both Neurals and modelling the third one.

Fox wrote:

Where have all the new people come from?

Don't know, there must be a n00b respawn point somewhere around?

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Post 14 \| New	Posted August 28th, 2005
Will Shovel Headed Kill Machine Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,625	I bet it is a Vietcong tunnel outlet! Damn those crafty Vietcong. A couple of grenades should do it... but go to find it first! Arg! Oh, and the GTA-3 based games have awful collision detection. Any cahnce of a San An Conversion, btw? ------------------ -My site got deleted-

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Posted August 28th, 2005

Will
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I bet it is a Vietcong tunnel outlet! Damn those crafty Vietcong. A couple of grenades should do it... but go to find it first! Arg!

Oh, and the GTA-3 based games have awful collision detection. Any cahnce of a San An Conversion, btw?

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Post 15 \| New	Posted August 29th, 2005
red light red light from gta forums Joined: Aug '05 Posts: 21	[quote=Will]I bet it is a Vietcong tunnel outlet! Damn those crafty Vietcong. A couple of grenades should do it... but go to find it first! Arg! Oh, and the GTA-3 based games have awful collision detection. Any cahnce of a San An Conversion, btw? he said [quote=Fragdieb2]Some guy at the pits did a SanAn conversion[/quote] and i came from the gta forums. ------------------

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Posted August 29th, 2005

red light
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[quote=Will]I bet it is a Vietcong tunnel outlet! Damn those crafty Vietcong. A couple of grenades should do it... but go to find it first! Arg!

Oh, and the GTA-3 based games have awful collision detection. Any cahnce of a San An Conversion, btw?

he said [quote=Fragdieb2]Some guy at the pits did a SanAn conversion[/quote]
and i came from the gta forums.

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Post 16 \| New	Posted August 29th, 2005
Will Shovel Headed Kill Machine Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,625	Woah... you broke that quote code worse than dup did... Thanks for pointing that out anyway. The glass looks a bit fucked on it though ------------------ -My site got deleted-

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Posted August 29th, 2005

Will
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Woah... you broke that quote code worse than dup did...

Thanks for pointing that out anyway.

The glass looks a bit fucked on it though

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Post 17 \| New	Posted August 30th, 2005
Fragdieb2 just öne löuder Joined: Mar '03 Posts: 1,725	I think the convertor just didn't understand how I made this toned glass with the extreme reflections in VC. I found out that reflections only seemed to work on textured material in VC, so I used an alpha-mapped dark gray texture for the windows and a special reflection map (the same I used for high-chrome effects on the rims and other parts). I guess this method doesn't work in SA though, due to SA's different reflection system. I guess the guy who converted it just didn't bother to check what was wrong with the windows. When I'm back at my place, I'll try a proper conversion, which looks really good in San Andreas. ------------------ Short gigs are like bad sex!

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Posted August 30th, 2005

Fragdieb2
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I think the convertor just didn't understand how I made this toned glass with the extreme reflections in VC. I found out that reflections only seemed to work on textured material in VC, so I used an alpha-mapped dark gray texture for the windows and a special reflection map (the same I used for high-chrome effects on the rims and other parts). I guess this method doesn't work in SA though, due to SA's different reflection system. I guess the guy who converted it just didn't bother to check what was wrong with the windows.

When I'm back at my place, I'll try a proper conversion, which looks really good in San Andreas.

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