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Post 1 \| New	Posted August 10th, 2008
DiscoFreak j0hnz0r Joined: Jun '03 Posts: 1,232 Status: Online	= EPIC WIN = EPIC FAIL = BETTER THAN EARLY 4th GENS, BUT FAIL COMPARED TO 3rd GEN = THE MOST EPIC OF ALL EPIC FAILURES ------------------ "Disco is music for dancing, and I know that the people will always want to dance." - Giorgio Moroder - OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG NAD I GOTTED BANZORED 4 IT!!!!

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Posted August 10th, 2008

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http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/fanofdisco2/metallicamaro-1989-iroc-z.jpg

= EPIC WIN

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/fanofdisco2/image001.jpg

= EPIC FAIL

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/fanofdisco2/tudds3.jpg

= BETTER THAN EARLY 4th GENS, BUT FAIL COMPARED TO 3rd GEN

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/fanofdisco2/camaro06_06.jpg

= THE MOST EPIC OF ALL EPIC FAILURES

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"Disco is music for dancing, and I know that the people will always want to dance."
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OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG NAD I GOTTED BANZORED 4 IT!!!!

Post 2 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008. Updated August 11th, 2008
2na Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -97,101	Sorry what? They are bringing back the original shape of the 1960 Camaro's, that can only be a good thing. I’d rather have re-invented plastic homage to the muscle and exotic cars of old because they simply look great and it means I could conceivably own one. Now if they would just put that redesigned Miura into production.

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Posted August 11th, 2008. Updated August 11th, 2008

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Sorry what?

They are bringing back the original shape of the 1960 Camaro's, that can only be a good thing.

I’d rather have re-invented plastic homage to the muscle and exotic cars of old because they simply look great and it means I could conceivably own one.

Now if they would just put that redesigned Miura into production.

Post 3 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008. Updated August 11th, 2008
Ameer SUPERCHARGED!!!! Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,192	All it really is is an overpriced, unaerodynamic marketing tool, and an excuse to not bother making it handle. You can't compare it with REAL SPORTS CARS guys, IT"S A MUSSEL CAR DHUR Early fourth gens are growing on me majorly. I think they look really sharp, and not just literally. Also, that is the concept car with giant wheels, tiny mirrors, and painted on rotors. Here is the production car: Picture a really flobbery chassis, with a supremely obsolete shape, and a price tag high enough to scare off all high school footballers and cheerleaders- all it's bread and butter V6 buyers really- vomit some styling onto it that has NO INFLUENCE FROM ANY CAMARO OF THE PAST FORTY YEARS, all designed by some marketing men and accountants sitting around a table in a big fancy boardroom in a crumbling city full of crackheads. OH. And don't put the classic Camaro badge anywhere on it at all. It's a "retro" car for people who don't know anything about the past of the Camaro. ------------------ Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm Little AJ, little AJ On the tarmac road. Got a screaming underage girl Where the spare tyre is stowed. OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

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Posted August 11th, 2008. Updated August 11th, 2008

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All it really is is an overpriced, unaerodynamic marketing tool, and an excuse to not bother making it handle.

You can't compare it with REAL SPORTS CARS guys, IT"S A MUSSEL CAR DHUR

Early fourth gens are growing on me majorly. I think they look really sharp, and not just literally.

Also, that is the concept car with giant wheels, tiny mirrors, and painted on rotors. Here is the production car:

http://www.thetorquereport.com/camaro_convertible_prod.jpg

Picture a really flobbery chassis, with a supremely obsolete shape, and a price tag high enough to scare off all high school footballers and cheerleaders- all it's bread and butter V6 buyers really- vomit some styling onto it that has NO INFLUENCE FROM ANY CAMARO OF THE PAST FORTY YEARS, all designed by some marketing men and accountants sitting around a table in a big fancy boardroom in a crumbling city full of crackheads.

OH. And don't put the classic Camaro badge anywhere on it at all.

It's a "retro" car for people who don't know anything about the past of the Camaro.

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Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm
Little AJ, little AJ
On the tarmac road.
Got a screaming underage girl
Where the spare tyre is stowed.

OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

Post 4 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Ameer SUPERCHARGED!!!! Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,192	I guess I was being naive, but there was a time when I actually had hopes that GM would have the foresight to built a quality product, instead of a soulless Happy Meal of a cash cow. I know this is a crude photoshop, but it's the idea that matters- I was hoping the front end would look something like this: Sort of really accentuate the lines of the fourth gen into a truly beautiful shape, modernizing the lines of the second gens: ------------------ Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm Little AJ, little AJ On the tarmac road. Got a screaming underage girl Where the spare tyre is stowed. OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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I guess I was being naive, but there was a time when I actually had hopes that GM would have the foresight to built a quality product, instead of a soulless Happy Meal of a cash cow.

I know this is a crude photoshop, but it's the idea that matters- I was hoping the front end would look something like this:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13/irocz0r/heritage.jpg

Sort of really accentuate the lines of the fourth gen into a truly beautiful shape, modernizing the lines of the second gens:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/73Camaro_photo/IMG_1910_edited-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Camero_79_z28.jpg

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Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm
Little AJ, little AJ
On the tarmac road.
Got a screaming underage girl
Where the spare tyre is stowed.

OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

Post 5 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Alfadog beats eating it Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,066,064 Type: Moderator	The last good looking Camaro was the late 60s one. No wonder they chose that to influence the new design. The new one looks good. It's the least of GM's worries right now.. ------------------

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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The last good looking Camaro was the late 60s one. No wonder they chose that to influence the new design.

The new one looks good. It's the least of GM's worries right now..

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Post 6 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
JJHW Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,211	VW are the kings of this game... Beetle, nice. New Beetle, WRONG. I saw a Karmann Ghia in a VW magazine with Polo or something headlights on it, it looked great, they should release it exactly like that... ------------------ Long live the first 20 members! - I'm number 15 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhuhhhuuh

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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VW are the kings of this game...

Beetle, nice.

http://www.design-cars.com/images/stories/CarDesign/vw_beetle.jpg

New Beetle, WRONG.

http://www.imagecows.com/uploads/7882-VW-Beetle.jpg

I saw a Karmann Ghia in a VW magazine with Polo or something headlights on it, it looked great, they should release it exactly like that...

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Post 7 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Needles Drinks Fucking Tea! Joined: Jan '99 Posts: 2,296 Type: Moderator	DiscoFreak wrote: = EPIC WIN = EPIC FAIL = BETTER THAN EARLY 4th GENS, BUT FAIL COMPARED TO 3rd GEN = THE MOST EPIC OF ALL EPIC FAILURES Fail? Win? Epic??? Try this, epic Banz0r... Needles ------------------ Drink Tea Anonymous wrote: Banning people is not the only job of an admin. All i've seen from you is that: A ) Anyone who does not share your views over things is wrong and therefore must be banned, and B ) You are completely biased towards England. (note the views expressed by Needles are not necessarily shared by the Gouranga! Forums staff and sometimes we've never heard of him guv honest, he just loiters around a bit making the place look untidy. your Honour.)

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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DiscoFreak wrote:

= EPIC WIN

= EPIC FAIL

= BETTER THAN EARLY 4th GENS, BUT FAIL COMPARED TO 3rd GEN

= THE MOST EPIC OF ALL EPIC FAILURES

Fail? Win? Epic???
Try this, epic Banz0r...

Needles

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Drink Tea
Anonymous wrote:

Banning people is not the only job of an admin. All i've seen from you is that: A ) Anyone who does not share your views over things is wrong and therefore must be banned, and B ) You are completely biased towards England.

(note the views expressed by Needles are not necessarily shared by the Gouranga! Forums staff and sometimes we've never heard of him guv honest, he just loiters around a bit making the place look untidy. your Honour.)

Post 8 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Azz the barbarian. grrr Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,824 Type: Administrator Status: Online	Sorry but you're all wrong: Mini (BG) Mini (AG) pfft. ------------------ azz.gouranga.com est. 1998 (I am oldskoolier than joo)

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Sorry but you're all wrong:

Mini (BG)

http://www.hungoverdrawn.co.uk/images/general/mini.jpg

Mini (AG)

http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/images/news/Mini%20Cooper%20D.JPG

pfft.

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Post 9 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
JJHW Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,211	You know what, it's so bad I completely forgot about, it haha! The BMW MAXI! Same wheelbase as the Land Rover Discovery don'tchaknow. I'll do the opposite; NO YES ------------------ Long live the first 20 members! - I'm number 15 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhuhhhuuh

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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You know what, it's so bad I completely forgot about, it haha!

The BMW MAXI! Same wheelbase as the Land Rover Discovery don'tchaknow.

I'll do the opposite;

NO

http://www.rennsportcalgary.ca/inventory/image/products/cccc.jpg

YES

http://themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/porsche-911-997-tmr.jpg

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Post 10 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Azz the barbarian. grrr Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,824 Type: Administrator Status: Online	And the award for most revolutionary redesign goes to Pors... oh wait. Seriously, I wonder if the designers at Porsche every get bored? Oh good we get to do another 911. So let's dig out the old plans and erm, finished then? ------------------ azz.gouranga.com est. 1998 (I am oldskoolier than joo)

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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And the award for most revolutionary redesign goes to Pors... oh wait.

Seriously, I wonder if the designers at Porsche every get bored? Oh good we get to do another 911. So let's dig out the old plans and erm, finished then?

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Post 11 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
Maindrian Delightful hobo! Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 2,517 Type: Moderator	Spunky! Chunky! Wait, what? No, stop mucking about. It isn't funny. It doesn't make you look cool. DRIVE IT OFF A CLIFF. Hmm, not bad... Wait... False alarm, it's bad. I love old Mustangs. There's a guy who drives a white 73 Mach 1 around town and it is comically huge, utterly silly and completely lovable. You'd always find it parked up, dwarfing every other car around it. ------------------ WORST. VIDEOGAME. EVER.

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Spunky!

http://www.stangfan.com/online/attachments/1964-1973-mustangs/76d1140728647-pic-1965-mustang-fastback-i-65-mustang-fastback-ivy-green022.jpg

Chunky!

http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/1972_Ford_Mustang_Mach1_Yellow_sf11.jpg

Wait, what?

http://www.edu.pe.ca/sourishigh/Pages/Cmp5-05/Mills/Webpage/Pictures/1976/1976gray.jpg

No, stop mucking about.

http://z.about.com/d/mustangs/1/0/y/0/-/-/1981FordMustang.jpg

It isn't funny.

http://z.about.com/d/mustangs/1/0/3/1/-/-/1987FordMustang-c.jpg

It doesn't make you look cool.

http://www.stangfan.com/online/attachments/general-mustang-chat-tech-chat/564d1194398281-1993-ford-mustang-coupe-4-6l-2.jpg

DRIVE IT OFF A CLIFF.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1999-2000-2001-2002-2003-2004-ford-mustang-specifications-1.jpg

Hmm, not bad...

http://www.cardotcom.com/cars/images02/06ford-mustang-gt.jpg

Wait... False alarm, it's bad.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2554944134_d9c604e42d.jpg?v=0

I love old Mustangs. There's a guy who drives a white 73 Mach 1 around town and it is comically huge, utterly silly and completely lovable. You'd always find it parked up, dwarfing every other car around it.

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Post 12 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
JJHW Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 1,211	Funny, the Mustang story is exactly what happened to the Escort... First two, great, everything after, ouch. ------------------ Long live the first 20 members! - I'm number 15 duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhuhuuuhuhuhuhuhhhuuh

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Funny, the Mustang story is exactly what happened to the Escort... First two, great, everything after, ouch.

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Post 13 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
2na Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -97,101	For the past 10 years All Porsche’s have looked identical: they can slap new headlights on the 2008 models and call it retro but it’s just not. But as long as you ignore all Porsches apart from the 911 model then you won’t find an ugly one in the bunch. The first generation Camaro is a brilliant looking car and the 3rd generation is quite the looker to: sleek, low, sporty. The 2nd generation being the worst. Especially the late 70’s models that look like the front of a train complete with cow catcher: YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE AJ. I will however grant you that the 2009 plastic Camaro is for a casual market rather then for enthusiasts and that is a shame: if only they put a big engine in it and put it up against the GTO. Because lets face it if the PT cruiser came with a V8 it would be praised as a modern day muscle car. Everyone would ignore the fact its complete rubbish because it looks like it came from the 60’s and has a big engine.

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For the past 10 years All Porsche’s have looked identical: they can slap new headlights on the 2008 models and call it retro but it’s just not.

But as long as you ignore all Porsches apart from the 911 model then you won’t find an ugly one in the bunch.

The first generation Camaro is a brilliant looking car and the 3rd generation is quite the looker to: sleek, low, sporty. The 2nd generation being the worst. Especially the late 70’s models that look like the front of a train complete with cow catcher: YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE AJ.

I will however grant you that the 2009 plastic Camaro is for a casual market rather then for enthusiasts and that is a shame: if only they put a big engine in it and put it up against the GTO.

Because lets face it if the PT cruiser came with a V8 it would be praised as a modern day muscle car. Everyone would ignore the fact its complete rubbish because it looks like it came from the 60’s and has a big engine.

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Ameer SUPERCHARGED!!!! Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 3,192	Maindrian wrote: No, stop mucking about. It isn't funny. I'll agree that the orange '79 "King Cobra" edition is a horrible looking monstrosity, but that's only because they tried to make it look butch and American. Did you know that the '79 Mustang was the first Ford to EVER have a slanted grille? Every Ford up until this point had a completely upright grille. It was a bold departure from everything Ford had done before, and a bold departure from that fat luxury pig the Mustang had become. It was made to be a REAL sports car, which I have great respect for. Like I said, at the time, the looks were radical and sporty, but in retrospect it is completely bland. But by the late 80's and early 90's, it looked FANTASTIC. With new ground effects, a fastback body style, and huge freaking power, it's was and is a simply a fantastic sports car. They're SMALL, they handle great, and it's very easy to get HUGE power out of them. Albeit, I am, inexplicably, in a minority. Most people hate the Fox Mustangs of the 80's. But Fox Mustangs are the ONLY Mustangs I like. Also, I don't really "like" them, but I do respect the '94 to '04 Mustangs and think they look good, hardly "drive it off a cliff". Definitely respect them infinitely more than the new ones. ------------------ Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm Little AJ, little AJ On the tarmac road. Got a screaming underage girl Where the spare tyre is stowed. OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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Maindrian wrote:

No, stop mucking about.

It isn't funny.

I'll agree that the orange '79 "King Cobra" edition is a horrible looking monstrosity, but that's only because they tried to make it look butch and American.

Did you know that the '79 Mustang was the first Ford to EVER have a slanted grille? Every Ford up until this point had a completely upright grille. It was a bold departure from everything Ford had done before, and a bold departure from that fat luxury pig the Mustang had become. It was made to be a REAL sports car, which I have great respect for.

Like I said, at the time, the looks were radical and sporty, but in retrospect it is completely bland. But by the late 80's and early 90's, it looked FANTASTIC. With new ground effects, a fastback body style, and huge freaking power, it's was and is a simply a fantastic sports car.

They're SMALL, they handle great, and it's very easy to get HUGE power out of them.

Albeit, I am, inexplicably, in a minority. Most people hate the Fox Mustangs of the 80's. But Fox Mustangs are the ONLY Mustangs I like.

Also, I don't really "like" them, but I do respect the '94 to '04 Mustangs and think they look good, hardly "drive it off a cliff". Definitely respect them infinitely more than the new ones.

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Touge on 2/19/05 at 12:57 pm
Little AJ, little AJ
On the tarmac road.
Got a screaming underage girl
Where the spare tyre is stowed.

OH NOOOOES SUM1 HAKED MY SIG!

Post 15 \| New	Posted August 11th, 2008
2na Joined: Feb '03 Posts: -97,101	Didn’t the “drive it off a cliff” model come in a special edition were you had to have a racing licence to buy it? You have to admit that’s peaty cool.

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Posted August 11th, 2008

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Didn’t the “drive it off a cliff” model come in a special edition were you had to have a racing licence to buy it? You have to admit that’s peaty cool.

Post 16 \| New	Posted August 12th, 2008
Mad::Matt Insert funny title. Joined::Jul '03 Posts::666	It still looked like a used condom. I.e, a bag of wank. Dodge Chargers, Oh yeah, 60's and 70's ones, complete sex. Whos fucking idea was it to make it a 4 door? Seriously "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" happened there? Eesh. And yeah, the Bini looks stupid. Raping a perfectly good car sniff ------------------

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It still looked like a used condom. I.e, a bag of wank.

Dodge Chargers, Oh yeah, 60's and 70's ones, complete sex.

Whos fucking idea was it to make it a 4 door? Seriously "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" happened there?

Eesh.

And yeah, the Bini looks stupid. Raping a perfectly good car *sniff*

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Maindrian Delightful hobo! Joined: Feb '03 Posts: 2,517 Type: Moderator	Yeah, I was purely going on the looks of things, what with it being about design and not how they drive. Lets face it, regardless of handling, speed, blah blah blah, a lot of those Mustangs do look shit, especially that 93 model. ------------------ WORST. VIDEOGAME. EVER.

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Posted August 12th, 2008

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Yeah, I was purely going on the looks of things, what with it being about design and not how they drive. Lets face it, regardless of handling, speed, blah blah blah, a lot of those Mustangs do look shit, especially that 93 model.

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